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Message 4555 - Posted: 28 Sep 2014, 11:07:33 UTC

Recently I remember that my DNA sub-project had over 145,000 points due to all the recent work that became available.
On checking tonight (Australian time) I found that my DNA total had dropped back to it's starting total from before Citizen Science Grid got going.

My sub-project total for DNA was 141,545 points when work was stopped for all 3 projects to be merged.
My overall total with all 3 sub-projects was 1,321,871

My overall total for all 3 sub-projects is now 1,326,875 a gain of 5,004 points due to the recent work.

However my DNA total is now 142,306 for (31) tasks processed.

If I add 5,004 points onto my original DNA total of 141,545, then I get 146,549 points.

So I was wondering where the credits went that were on the DNA project but are no longer there.

I think it may have something to do with the Task counting that has been added to each sub-project.
I have processed far more than 31 tasks for DNA@Home Gibbs sampler under Citizen Science Grid (probably closer to 200 at least).

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Message 4559 - Posted: 28 Sep 2014, 15:22:27 UTC - in response to Message 4555.

Recently I remember that my DNA sub-project had over 145,000 points due to all the recent work that became available.
On checking tonight (Australian time) I found that my DNA total had dropped back to it's starting total from before Citizen Science Grid got going.

My sub-project total for DNA was 141,545 points when work was stopped for all 3 projects to be merged.
My overall total with all 3 sub-projects was 1,321,871

My overall total for all 3 sub-projects is now 1,326,875 a gain of 5,004 points due to the recent work.

However my DNA total is now 142,306 for (31) tasks processed.

If I add 5,004 points onto my original DNA total of 141,545, then I get 146,549 points.

So I was wondering where the credits went that were on the DNA project but are no longer there.

I think it may have something to do with the Task counting that has been added to each sub-project.
I have processed far more than 31 tasks for DNA@Home Gibbs sampler under Citizen Science Grid (probably closer to 200 at least).

Conan


Some kind of issue might have happened when I migrated over to the new credit system, let me look into it.

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Message 4562 - Posted: 28 Sep 2014, 15:55:00 UTC - in response to Message 4559.

Should be fixed now. I had updated the credit in the new per-app credit system based on what was in the old DNA@Home database, as opposed to what was in the old DNA@Home database + newly gained credit here on CSG.

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Message 4568 - Posted: 28 Sep 2014, 17:39:03 UTC

I crunched for DNA@home, Subsetsum@home and Wildlife@home some time ago. I've got 114,845 Cr for DNA, 208,009 for Subsetsum and 10,249 for Wildlife
The CSG account only shows the credits from Wildlife. Thought that CSG is a merge from the 3 older projects. Did i think wrong?

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Message 4570 - Posted: 28 Sep 2014, 17:44:36 UTC - in response to Message 4568.
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I crunched for DNA@home, Subsetsum@home and Wildlife@home some time ago. I've got 114,845 Cr for DNA, 208,009 for Subsetsum and 10,249 for Wildlife
The CSG account only shows the credits from Wildlife. Thought that CSG is a merge from the 3 older projects. Did i think wrong?


It is a merge of the three projects, however there was no good way to do this merger automatically.

If you go to the Link Accounts page, it will let you link to your accounts on the old projects, which will move that credit over here.

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Message 4584 - Posted: 28 Sep 2014, 21:19:59 UTC - in response to Message 4570.

Thx
Did it, but till yet no reaction. Have to wait...

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Message 4585 - Posted: 28 Sep 2014, 21:33:36 UTC
Last modified: 28 Sep 2014, 21:34:46 UTC

Thanks Travis, all now OK.

You have to be one of the best Project administrators out there (I would say 'the best', but you might get a swelled head and no longer fit through doors, and we can't have that).

Oh and thanks for the new badge on DNA, 1,000,000 is my next target now.

Conan

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Message 4586 - Posted: 28 Sep 2014, 21:48:12 UTC - in response to Message 4584.

Thx
Did it, but till yet no reaction. Have to wait...


Should be fixed, but something is wrong with the account linking page... Need to look into it.

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Message 4591 - Posted: 29 Sep 2014, 3:24:24 UTC - in response to Message 4586.

Nothing is fixed. Sorry for bad news.

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Message 4593 - Posted: 29 Sep 2014, 15:37:00 UTC - in response to Message 4591.

Nothing is fixed. Sorry for bad news.


Looks like you're all good now. You have credit for each subproject and your total is equal to the sum of those.

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Message 4604 - Posted: 29 Sep 2014, 19:47:16 UTC - in response to Message 4593.

Now it is okay. Thx for fast work!

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Message 5300 - Posted: 27 May 2015, 19:13:34 UTC

Same problem now for me:

There's a dicrepancy of about 150,000 credits between CSG total credits and the sum of the subprojects.

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Message 5301 - Posted: 28 May 2015, 6:26:08 UTC - in response to Message 5300.

There's a dicrepancy of about 150,000 credits between CSG total credits and the sum of the subprojects.


+1

30k credits of discrepancy

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Message 5303 - Posted: 28 May 2015, 10:06:57 UTC

+2

The discrepancy in my total is +19,802 more than sum of three projects. An odd amount that does not seem related to "doubling" or coming from addition of "retired" project totals pre-CSG.

Travis own total is only +1,371 difference.
The all the numbers are the same in message box info and account page numbers.
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Message 5311 - Posted: 28 May 2015, 18:30:47 UTC - in response to Message 5303.
Last modified: 28 May 2015, 18:34:14 UTC

Over the last two days I put a lot of extra effort in Citizen Science grid, letting my credit total increase from 440,000 to 516,000. But my subprojects did not rise as much, giving at present a total of only some 461,000. The discrepancy seems some 55,000! Are the tasks awaiting validation already included in the grand total, bu not as yet in the subprojects?
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Message 5313 - Posted: 28 May 2015, 19:36:04 UTC - in response to Message 5300.

Same problem now for me:

There's a dicrepancy of about 150,000 credits between CSG total credits and the sum of the subprojects.


This one is really odd. Looking into it.

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Message 5316 - Posted: 29 May 2015, 1:05:17 UTC

Another (not matching) value: The sum of all computers for this project is between the other two values.

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Message 5317 - Posted: 29 May 2015, 4:03:40 UTC - in response to Message 5313.

Seems to be in issue with the combined stats.
When I look into my results, the subproject stats are ok.
But I get additional 100 credits for every validated DNA result added to my combined credits.

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Message 5318 - Posted: 29 May 2015, 7:29:56 UTC - in response to Message 5317.

Seems to be in issue with the combined stats.
When I look into my results, the subproject stats are ok.
But I get additional 100 credits for every validated DNA result added to my combined credits.


I can't say that I am seeing this happen with my totals. It might be, but I can't get any maths to add up with an extra 100 points for each valid DNA task.
Not sure if it has anything to do with these new really long DNA work units (some are going for well over 4 hours for me now). If there is extra points being added it may be due to the long work units perhaps? But this extra credit is not showing against the actual work units.

But it is good to have the work to do.

Conan
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Message 5319 - Posted: 29 May 2015, 11:33:27 UTC - in response to Message 5318.
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According BOINCStats:
Date Total
26-5 445,335 (+ 2,756)
27-5 451,854 (+ 6,518)
28-5 479,198 (+ 27,344)
29-5 519,762 (+ 40,564)

According to FreeDC:
25-5 + 2,756
26-5 + 6,518
27-5 + 27,344 (+ some 2000+ DNA; + some 3,000+ SSS)
28-5 + 40,564 (+ 4,447 DNA; + 7,211 SSS)
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